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| Here is my pseudo -scientific Gospel analysis . |
It's Christmas time . Time to blow the lid off something . This holiday season a new and sensational book is out that claims that Jesus led a secret married life . You are all familiar with the theme that has been so prevalent in Dan Brown's books Da Vinci Code trilogy . (1)> You'll like this book , but for a fundamentalist die hard Christian it's a bit blasphemous ,Why would it bother you so much if Jesus was married? To me whether he was married or not, is not his message. Trying to live a life in Christ is the message. If they are true … well, that would be devastating for Christianity. But to write anything about it in a scientific manner I'd really need something more then repeated claims. ( I don't marginally repeat my self ). It's right in line with the <> Gnostic Gospels . A new theory is in that is a rewrite of all that's ever been speculated upon thankfully Simcha Jacobovici, an author and filmmaker who is famous for promoting stunning theories about Jesus that on further review often turn out to be dubious has set new claim.This is a story that has been around for centuries but was disavowed by early church fathers. Totally inconsistent with the purpose for which he came to earth. No different than the books written today that are false but still receive a lot of attention. Jacobovici’s new claim that he has decoded an old text that reveals (2)> Jesus and the Magdalene were married and had two kids (and she was a “co-deity” with her husband) came out this month and has also been widely dismissed. Called "The Lost Gospel," by Jacobovici and York University Professor Barrie Wilson, bases its claim on the document dating back to 570 AD and written in Aramaic. “There is now written evidence that Jesus was married to Mary the Magdalene and that they had children together. … Gathering dust in the British Library is a document that takes us into the missing years of Jesus’s life,” the book states. Disputed by many experts, the theory about Jesus' union with Mary Magdalene is perhaps best represented in works of fiction such as Nikos Kazantzakis' "The Last Temptation of Christ" and Dan Brown's (5)> "The Da Vinci Code." There is really nothing new to the book , and first of ALL I Like to say to all the READERS of the Dan Brown books and those who ascribe various new age beliefs about Mary Magalene .(4)> THERE IS NO MYSTERY.There's a secret code, they ( Jacobovici & Wilson ) say, buried in the ancient words of a 1,500-year-old manuscript and they say in their book and an upcoming documentary, they've cracked that code. The Text is a Hellenistic work called ***' Joseph and Asneath ' Many scholars are skeptical. For instance, the name Jesus never actually appears in that ancient text. There is simply no evidence in this text or anywhere else that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene, much less that they had a couple of children. Mary of Magdala. No trustworthy source has ever been found for this tradition, and there are two good reasons for saying that this was not Mary Magdalene: 1. She is introduced soon after ( Luke 8:2 ) as a new character and also as a woman of wealth and consequence. See also Matthew 27:55 Jesus had delivered her from the possession of seven demons. But there is no connection between sin and demon-possession. This Gospel account gives us a great puzzle that has been the exact rift between Judaism and Christianity . Jesus's own relationship with women have been a mystery , sure enough he did have female disciples that were written out of the bible , but were interwoven later in the rest of the Letter's of Paul . The Book of Revelation describes the marriage of the Lamb for instance which hints as the final secret that Jesus was married to a flesh and blood women and not a organization ( church) "Let us rejoice and be glad and give him glory! For the wedding of the Lamb has come, and his bride has made herself ready. Marriage Supper of the Lamb - Revelation 19 v.9 Fine linen, bright and clean, was given her to wear." No Christian would accept it as literal , or otherwise fanciful.
The Real Jesus was Jewish .
Exactly, Jesus was circumcised. He celebrated Yom Kippur and Hanukkah. He celebrated Passover. Humans dropped these practices from Christianity, and much more. Who even says Christ would agree with what is modern Pauline Christianity? Christianity kept much of Jewish thought. It's based on Judaism. Ever heard of the Golden Rule? It's Jewish. Ever heard of the concept of heaven? It's Jewish. The messiah is a Jewish concept. Duh. The last supper may have been a seder.Jesus no where calls himself 'God' he's often praying to his father whom he claimed was the Jewish god. but the worshiper's of Jesus have deified him through out the rest of the new Testament . Creating vary conflicting scriptures .Early Christians were mostly Jewish by birth. Later there was disagreement about the Gentiles. But this was decided in 50 A.D. at the Council of Jerusalem. So, Thus far there's no disagreement that Jesus was a Jew or that His first followers were Jews. But you still refuse to see that this doesn't mean He meant for everyone to be Jewish.
The Real Lost Gospel .
If there is really a lost gospel not included in the New Testament it has to be the book of Didache, an early handbook of an anonymous Christian community, "is the most important book you've never heard of." It spells out a way of life for Jesus-followers, including how to show one another the love of God, how to practice the Eucharist, and how to take in wandering prophets.Likely written before many of the New Testament books, the missing books of the New Testament , most of them were written in Egypt which had a strong christian community out side of Judea . According to some estimates, early Christians wrote at least twenty gospels that weren't included in the bible. Many of these non-biblical gospels apparently disappeared later, although it's possible that copies of some of them still survive at unknown locations. Luckily, several that appeared to be missing have been found again in modern times. But some are still missing, and could be permanently lost.Gospels that were left out of the Bible are called non-canonical gospels. Many scholars also call them apocryphal gospels, because most of them have unknown origins. This uncertainty about their origins was one reason many of them were excluded from the Bible. But some were also excluded because they expressed unorthodox or heretical views.The only extant copy of this gospel was found in Egypt, but the time and place of its discovery are uncertain, and there are indications that it passed through the Egyptian black market at one stage.The existing copy is a Coptic text, probably a translation of a still-lost Greek original. Unfortunately the manuscript is damaged in many places, and some pages are missing, so that translation and interpretation are difficult. However, many scholars believe that it was a secret gospel used mostly by certain gnostic sects of Christians.This gospel is notable in that it may depict Judas Iscariot as the most loyal disciple of Jesus, and an innocent martyr instead of an evil betrayer. But because of the damage to the manuscript, and the difficulties of interpretation, there is some uncertainty about this matter. In any case, this is one of the later gospels, probably not written until the second century, and most scholars doubt that it contains any authentic information about the real Judas Iscariot.According to the Two Source Hypothesis accepted by a majority of contemporary scholars, the authors of Matthew and Luke each made use of two different sources: the Gospel of Mark and a non-extant second source termed Q. The siglum Q derives from the German word "Quelle," which means "Source." Q primarily consists of the "double tradition" material, that which is present in both Matthew and Luke but not Mark. However, Q may also contain material that is preserved only by Matthew or only by Luke (called "Sondergut") as well as material that is paralleled in Mark (called Mark/Q overlaps). Although the temptation story and the healing of the centurion's son are usually ascribed to Q, the majority of the material consists of sayings. For this reason, Q is sometimes called the Synoptic Sayings Source or the Sayings Gospel. Some scholars have observed that the Gospel of Thomas and the Q material, as contrasted with the four canonical gospels, are similar in their emphasis on the sayings of Jesus instead of the passion of Jesus. The OLDEST Christian text is the the Didache or Teaching of the Twelve Apostles has continued to be one of the most disputed of early Christian texts. It has been depicted by scholars as anything between the original of the Apostolic Decree (c. 50 AD). STRANGELY this text is not found in any bible of both Catholic and Protestant editions . It deserves a second look , particularly odd of non canonical acceptance .
Did Ancient Egypt influence Christianity ?
The First Pagan converts to Pauline Christianity did not have a problem accepting Jesus Scholars have debated a number of broad issues related to the parallels drawn between Jesus and other myths, e.g. the very existence of the category dying-and-rising god was debated throughout the 20th century, most modern scholars questioning the soundness of the category. Gerald Massey argued that there are similarities between the (3)> Egyptian god Horus and Jesus.[25] Following those ideas, in the 1940s Alvin Boyd Kuhn suggested that not only Christianity, but Judaism was based on Egyptian concepts,I searched only for Horus I found plenty of sites on genuine Egyptology that do not describe Horus in any way that could be confused with the Jesus story .What we do know is that religions evolve. Baptists from earlier Protestants and the first Protestants from Catholicism is one crude but we’ll understood example. Others are the very obvious re-treading of Christianity by Joseph Smith, and the recycling of Judaism by Mohammad.My personal favourite used to be Dionysius and Jesus, but I’m afraid that is probably just as distant a relationship as Horus. Mithraism and Christianity have long been known to have parallels that are fascinating and may point to a nonJewish root for some small parts of Christian mythology and culture.
The Birth of Jesus.
While many people celebrate the birth of Jesus on December 25th every year . By now most of us would have guessed that the holiday was hardly celebrated by early Christians . It's a pagan festival that had gone through several incarnations over the thousand year period . So when was Jesus really born ? The Gospel story gives us some insight .In Christian tradition, the Star of Bethlehem, also called the Christmas Star,[1] revealed the birth of Jesus to the Biblical Magi, and later led them to Bethlehem. The star appears only in the nativity story of the Gospel of Matthew, where magi "from the east" are inspired by the star to travel to Jerusalem.[2] We are so familiar with the story.Many Christians see the star as a miraculous sign to mark the birth of the Christ (or messiah). Some theologians claimed that the star fulfilled a prophecy, known as the Star Prophecy.[4] Astronomers have made several attempts to link the star to unusual astronomical events, such as a conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn, a comet or a supernova. The Comet theory best describes the "star" of Bethlehem . Its appearance was as a star that "pointed" and "stood over" the city of Bethlehem. Josephus, the famed Jewish historian, described Halley’s Comet of 12 BC as heralding the death of Marcus Agrippa and stated in similar language as the New Testament account of the Bethlehem Star, "the star called comet stood for several days over the city [Rome]" 12 B.C. was the year the Jesus was born in November about the same time Marcus Agrippa died.
How old was Jesus , his "death".
This is a hard one . Most God fearing Christians have a whitewashed image of Jesus , and the movies always show him as a young man in his 30's . Truth is far from fiction , and the New Testament mingles legends with facts that can be matched with the accounts given by Josephus .Then they count the number of once a year feast the Gospels say Jesus attended. There are three mentioned, primarily in the Gospel of John. From this they gather his ministry lasted for three years. Thirty years of age at Baptism, three years of ministry = Thirty three years. However that belief is not shared by everyone. The (6)> second century Church Father Irenaeus wrote that Jesus Christ was around 50 years old during His earthly ministry. (Irenaeus was the disciple of Polycarp, who was a diciple of the Apostle John.) This adds more to the idea that Jesus was not a single man , and was married , perhaps fathered children . Jesus himself gave clues to his real age as told in the Gospel of John( John 2: 18-21) he said in making an illustration about the Jewish Temple and his body :
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*** is an ancient apocryphal expansion of the Book of Genesis's account of the patriarch Joseph's marriage to Aseneth.According to Genesis 41:45, Pharaoh gives Aseneth, the daughter of Potipherah (Pentephres in the Septuagint) priest of On to Joseph as a wife. Genesis 41:50-52 narrates that Aseneth bore Joseph two sons Manasseh and Ephraim. No more is said of her. Like many narratives in Genesis, the biblical story is tantalizingly brief, and raises questions that were to fascinate later interpreters. Why would an upstanding descendant of Jacob (Israel) marry the daughter of a pagan priest, and how could it be justifiable? How could two of the eponymous tribes be descended from union with an outsider, otherwise prohibited by the Mosaic Law? The story of Joseph and Aseneth sets out to answer some of those questions.The twenty-nine chapters of Joseph and Aseneth narrate the conversion of Aseneth, from idolatry to monotheism and the worship of Adonai. Aseneth, a virgin who has rejected numerous worthy suitors, falls in love with Joseph when he, as vizier of The Birth of Jesus.
While many people celebrate the birth of Jesus on December 25th every year . By now most of us would have guessed that the holiday was hardly celebrated by early Christians . It's a pagan festival that had gone through several incarnations over the thousand year period . So when was Jesus really born ? The Gospel story gives us some insight .In Christian tradition, the Star of Bethlehem, also called the Christmas Star,[1] revealed the birth of Jesus to the Biblical Magi, and later led them to Bethlehem. The star appears only in the nativity story of the Gospel of Matthew, where magi "from the east" are inspired by the star to travel to Jerusalem.[2] We are so familiar with the story.Many Christians see the star as a miraculous sign to mark the birth of the Christ (or messiah). Some theologians claimed that the star fulfilled a prophecy, known as the Star Prophecy.[4] Astronomers have made several attempts to link the star to unusual astronomical events, such as a conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn, a comet or a supernova. The Comet theory best describes the "star" of Bethlehem . Its appearance was as a star that "pointed" and "stood over" the city of Bethlehem. Josephus, the famed Jewish historian, described Halley’s Comet of 12 BC as heralding the death of Marcus Agrippa and stated in similar language as the New Testament account of the Bethlehem Star, "the star called comet stood for several days over the city [Rome]" 12 B.C. was the year the Jesus was born in November about the same time Marcus Agrippa died.
How old was Jesus , his "death".
This is a hard one . Most God fearing Christians have a whitewashed image of Jesus , and the movies always show him as a young man in his 30's . Truth is far from fiction , and the New Testament mingles legends with facts that can be matched with the accounts given by Josephus .Then they count the number of once a year feast the Gospels say Jesus attended. There are three mentioned, primarily in the Gospel of John. From this they gather his ministry lasted for three years. Thirty years of age at Baptism, three years of ministry = Thirty three years. However that belief is not shared by everyone. The (6)> second century Church Father Irenaeus wrote that Jesus Christ was around 50 years old during His earthly ministry. (Irenaeus was the disciple of Polycarp, who was a diciple of the Apostle John.) This adds more to the idea that Jesus was not a single man , and was married , perhaps fathered children . Jesus himself gave clues to his real age as told in the Gospel of John( John 2: 18-21) he said in making an illustration about the Jewish Temple and his body :
18 Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
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| (7)> Remember this Novel. It could be closer to fact than fiction . |
Concerning the death of Jesus . I don't believe that he was crucified , if he was he must of committed an act of political treason . It's hard for me to swallow the story that "healing the sick , and raising the dead" as Jesus own miracles would attest to as he would have been a wonder worker to the ancient people . He would have been worshiped as a "god" . This made this man so hated by the Roman anchorites ? The Crucifixion story , his trial was set in a political context has to be fiction or otherwise the followers of Jesus may have brought their own ambitions for him as the 'Messiah' , it could have contributed to his arrest . In The BOOK of ACTS there is another clue that Israel was full of would be 'messiah's' claimants running around . Acts 21:38 gives us a story that around the last few month's prior to the Jesus's death a riot took place in Jerusalem an Egyptian, etc. He whom Josephus calls (' Bell. Jud.,' it. 13:5) "the Egyptian false prophet," and relates that, having collected above thirty thousand followers, he advanced from the desert to the Mount of Olives, intending to overpower the Roman garrison and make himself tyrant of Jerusalem, with the help of his δορυφόροι, or body-guard, who might very probably be composed of the Assassins or Sicarii, mentioned in the text. Many of Jesus's followers were caught up with this man who's own 'miracles' were mixed up with Jesus's . Obviously the sermon on the Mount of Olives may have come from this ' Egyptian' whom the Gospel writer's later mistook it coming from Jesus . Either case The Egyptian had premised his deluded followers that the walls of Jerusalem would fall down like those of Jericho. It is not known exactly in what year the insurrection took place, but it happen the year that Jesus was arrested . This is why Jesus in the Gospel story was hiding in the Garden of Gethsemane, he was praying that the insurrection would be over . This was during the Passover , which was less peaceful at this time . The City of Jerusalem was filled rebellion . The Gospel ( Matthew 26:36-46)relates this passage in the purported words of Jesus : " Sit here while I go over there and pray.” 37And He took with Him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and began to be grieved and distressed. 38Then He said to them, “My soul is deeply grieved, to the point of death; remain here and keep watch with Me.” 39And He went a little beyond them, and fell on His face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will.” 40And He came to the disciples and found them sleeping, and said to Peter, “So, you men could not keep watch with Me for one hour? 41“Keep watching and praying that you may not enter into temptation; the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.” Now the last days of Jesus gets even more bizarre . Remember the gospels were written some 30 years after Jesus death . The Gospel records two trials that are interwoven in each text. Jesus has one trial before the Sanhedrin (a Jewish judicial body) with Caiaphas the high priest, where the scribes and the elders were gathered together. Matthew 27:1 adds that, the next morning, the priests held another meeting. If we are really to believe the story up to this point that a man could be tried twice ( If the name O.J Simpson for example ) The trial of Jesus ended here with his stoning for apostasy , but here the Gospel says that Jesus was sent to Pilate tried again and was sent to the cross . Remember in the gospels they found Jesus with out fault. We are led to believe that , I suspect that the man who went to the Cross may have been the Egyptian who led a rebellion at the Mount of Olives . So there were two men who were caught up , one the Egyptian and Jesus . Obviously contrary to what my bible says , I don't believe that Jesus died on the Cross , there are a number of clues The first is in the crucifixion itself. When a person was crucified they did not die quickly, but rather a slow painful, morbid death which would have taken two to three days, possibly even a week. Jesus supposedly died within two to three hours.Joseph of Arimethea went to Pilot and asked to have the body of Jesus, which was contrary to Roman law anyway, and when Pilot heard that Jesus was already dead, he was so surprised to hear that Jesus had died so quickly that he sent a centurion to check. The second oddity is that the crucifixion took place in what seemed to be a private garden and tomb owned by Joseph of Arimethea. The importance of this observation is that if there was any fraudulence associated with the crucifixion, then the public could be kept away in a private garden and Jesus could be privately taken away, revived, tendered and ministered to.No Jew would handle a dead body after the beginning of Passover. It be unsettling for many in our modern age as to accept this Lost Gospel . If true it will change nothing what was said over 2000 years . Organized religion has pretty muched bottled necked the scriptures . So from Iving Wallace's book The Word comes a bit fact to fiction as that novel says. Perhaps Jesus did not die on the Cross , he married fathered children and died a old age while the religon he started somehow got changed . this no need for the agurment, being married or not does not discredit Jesus or the christains. Jesus did not instruct us not to marry,God actually made woman for man to marry, thank God they said "marry" and not that He was funnicting.more than 50% of they life of Jesus christ was not recorded.the bible,it only recorded from His birth to 12th year when he was found with his father in the shop, and from 30 years when he was baptised to 33rd year yes he was not crucified as we are taught . let us not say what we don't know just because we want to discredit one religion. God created us all.
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| The Gospel records that Jesus 'feet' were washed and anointed with oil by an unnamed woman . In ancient times it was regarded as a sexual act. ( LUKE 7:36-50.) # |
Now there was actually a marriage [at Cana (John 2:1–11)]; and if Jesus was not the bridegroom on that occasion, please tell who was. If any man can show this, and prove that it was not the Savior of the world, then I will acknowledge I am in error. We say it was Jesus Christ who was married, to be brought into the relation whereby he could see his seed (Isaiah 53:10), before he was crucified. "Has he indeed passed by the nature of angels, and taken upon himself the seed of Abraham, to die without leaving a seed to bear his name on the earth?" No. But when the secret is fully out, the seed of the blessed shall be gathered in, in the last days; and he who has not the blood of Abraham flowing in his veins, who has not one particle of the Savior's in him, I am afraid is a stereotyped Gentile, who will be left out and not be gathered in the last days; for I tell you it is the chosen of God, the seed of the blessed, that shall be gathered. I do not despise to be called a son of Abraham, if he had a dozen wives; or to be called a brother, a son, a child of the Savior, if he had Mary, and Martha, and several others, as wives; and though he did cast seven devils out of one of them, it is all the same to me. [3]
# Here is one bible passage that has confused theologians for centuries about Jesus and his relation with women . First of all most of the gospel accounts show Jesus associating himself with fallen women ( Prostitutes) which made him an enemies of the Jewish Sadducees and Pharisees comprised the ruling class of Israel. 37 And behold, a woman who was in the city, a sinner; and when she knew that he was sitting at meat in the Pharisee's house, she brought an alabaster cruse of ointment. (2)> Original name for Jesus - The name corresponds to the Greek spelling Iesous, from which, through the Latin Iesus, comes the English spelling Jesus. The Hebrew spelling Yeshua (ישוע) appears in some later books of the Hebrew Bible. (3)> If you would look up gthe book entitled “The Christ Conspiracy,The Greatest Story Ever Sold” by Acharya S published by Adventures Unlimited Press, you will find evidence for simila points not only Horus but a dozen other “Gods”.(4)> There are 18 unknown years of Jesus' life missing in the Bible (ages 12–30). The Aquarian Gospel documents these 18 years as a time when Jesus travels to the centers of wisdom in India, Tibet & Western India, Persia, Assyria, Greece, and Egypt. In each of these capital cities, he is educated, tested, and teaches the religious leaders. Jesus inevitably proves that he is 'God's chosen one' (the Christ) in these locales and brings back this multi-cultural wisdom and confidence to Galilee & Judea. The Urantia Book records lost details by an 'Apostle named Andrew' which like the Aquarian Gospel says Jesus had a girlfriend .(5)> If you have not read The Da Vinci Code is a 2003 mystery-detective novel written by Dan Brown. It follows symbologist Robert Langdon and cryptologist Sophie Neveu after a murder in the Louvre Museum in Paris, when they become involved in a battle between the Priory of Sion and Opus Dei over the possibility of Jesus having been married to Mary Magdalene. The book is pure fantasy , and it's filled with new age Masonic lore, The novel explores an alternative religious history, whose central plot point is that the Merovingian kings of France were descended from the bloodline of Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene, ideas derived from Clive Prince's The Templar Revelation (1997) and books by Margaret Starbird. The book also refers to The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail (1982) though Dan Brown has stated that it was not used as research material.The Da Vinci Code provoked a popular interest in speculation concerning the Holy Grail legend and Mary Magdalene's role in the history of Christianity. The book has, however, been extensively denounced by many Christian denominations as an attack on the Roman Catholic Church. (6)> The Church Father Irenaeus claimed that Christ was about fifty when he died (Against Heresies II 22:5). His primary argument was that this information has been passed down to him by way of John and the other apostles. We should point out that Irenaeus is a very credible source, a disciple of Polycarp, who in turn was a disciple of the |Apostle John. As such, he is only one generation removed from direct contact with the apostles. Irenaeus was a church bishop who penned this information in his books “Against Heresies” sometime between the years 182 A.D. and 188 A.D. At the time he would have been in his sixties. (7)> The Word is a 1972 mystery thriller novel by Irving Wallace, which explores the origin of the Bible.The plot of the novel is based around the discovery within Roman ruins of a newgospel written by Jesus' younger brother, James in the first century. In the gospel, many facts of Jesus' life, including the years not mentioned in the Bible, are revealed not to be as factual as they were once thought to be.
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