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| The "bible" of the Pro- Gun lobby . A little book of contradictions . |
Its always "LEGAL weapons".
The Vegas shooter had obtained all his weapons legally . The count of the arsenal is stagging. Forty-seven guns were found in the suspected Las Vegas shooter's hotel suite and two homes, police said Tuesday night at a press conference.Multiple loaded high-capacity magazines were found in the hotel suite, at the (3)>>Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, law enforcement sources said on Monday. A modified bump stock rifle was also found, which allows a gun to simulate rapid automatic gunfire. Law enforcement officials are still in the process of examining firearms to determine if they were capable of firing automatically.At a separate location authorities found tannerite, an explosive used in target practice, sources said.According to a database maintained by Mother Jones, there have been at least 90 mass shootings in the United States since 1982, and most of the shooters got their guns legally. The database focuses on what the publication calls "indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker," and excludes shootings stemming from more conventional crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence.Of the 143 guns wielded by killers in mass shootings, more than three quarters were obtained legally, including dozens of assault weapons and semi-automatic handguns with high-capacity magazines, according to Mother Jones. Although America’s political debate about guns tends to focus on grisly mass shootings and murders, a majority of gun-related deaths in the US are suicides.this is actually one of the most compelling reasons for reducing access to guns — there is a lot of research that shows greater access to guns dramatically increases the risk of suicide.
The "TRUTH" about the Second Amendment.
The Second Amendment consists of just one sentence: “A well regulated militia, being necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” Today, scholars debate its bizarre comma placement, trying to make sense of the various clauses, and politicians routinely declare themselves to be its “strong supporters.” But in the grand sweep of American history, this sentence has never been among the most prominent constitutional provisions. In fact, for two centuries it was largely ignored. Its missing a lot more sentences. I think the 2nd Amendment was shorten for an obvious reason . The 1788 Virginia Convention [ http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch14s43.html ] contains the rest of the missing Second Amendment :
"17th. That the people have a right to keep and bear arms; that a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defence of a free state; that standing armies, in time of peace, are dangerous to liberty, and therefore ought to be avoided, as far as the circumstances and protection of the community will admit; and that, in all cases, the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power."
The BIG QUESTIONS about "militias" (4)>>long ignored by the NRA , was long swept under the rug by our nations history . Reading the Convention amendments that our nations founders probably had other ideas on why citizens have a right to arms . Its long connection to keep free and standing armies of citizens { if read correctly} . That the people have a right to keep and bear arms; that a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people trained to arms, is the proper, natural. The whole purpose originally was to have a army of civilians during times of national crisis who would take up arms along side a solider if called . The worrisome dialog in the convention notes as well that the nations founders would never foreseen how over the course of a hundred years that guns would , or could play in its undoing with excessive violence { in time of peace, are dangerous to liberty, and therefore ought to be avoided } But the new government would establish a “standing army” of professional soldiers and would disarm the 13 state militias, made up of part-time citizen-soldiers and revered as bulwarks against tyranny. These militias were the product of a world of civic duty and governmental compulsion utterly alien to us today. Every white man age 16 to 60 was enrolled. He was actually required to own—and bring—a musket or other military weapon. However the NRA to mobilize that passionate membership, over the last four decades, the NRA has used its advertising to change how many Americans see the Second Amendment–from a militia-based policy to one intently focused on individual gun ownership–and a relentlessly aggressive message that American gun rights are under threat.The word "militia" in the 2nd Amendment means the "arms" citizens have a "right" to bear are by definition weapons of war. The Constitution doesn't give us the right to own a BB gun or participate in paintball conflicts.The Constitution gives us the right to own and bear light infantry weapons. As America grapples with a relentless tide of gun violence, (5)>>pro-gun activists have come to rely on the Second Amendment as their trusty shield when faced with mass-shooting-induced criticism. In their interpretation, the amendment guarantees an individual right to bear arms—a reading that was upheld by the Supreme Court in its 2008 ruling in District of Columbia. v. Heller. Yet most judges and scholars who debated the clause’s awkwardly worded and oddly punctuated 27 words in the decades before Heller almost always arrived at the opposite conclusion, finding that the amendment protects gun ownership for purposes of military duty and collective security. It was drafted, after all, in the first years of post-colonial America, an era of scrappy citizen militias where the idea of a standing army—while the militias all but disappeared , except for a few "crazies" . The idea of owning & having a weapon now is more problematic legally .
My Rational Compromise .
The Las Vegas massacre could have been avoided . It begins at every gun shop . When someone goes to buy massive amount of guns in a short time is a red alert to the gun shop its deeper than going to the gun shop . Now guns can be bought over the internet , crossing state lines . Every state in the UNION has its different gun laws Nevada's least restrictive gun laws in the country may have contributed to the massacre. The state does not require firearms owners to have licenses or register their weapons and (6)>>Nevada does not limit the number of firearms an individual can possess. The argument is why would any law abiding American citizen would have to own so many weapons ? I can see those who own a gun for self protection , this has been the staple NRA defense for individual rights . Second the field and stream game hunters who have hunting rifles . I understand that , I am not a hunter or care for the sport . Federal law does not limit the number of guns a person may buy in any given time period. However, federal law does require federal firearm licensees (“FFLs”) to report multiple sales of handguns to ATF and other specified law enforcement agencies. Limiting HOW many guns a person could buy varies . I personally believe that gun ownership has to be redefined . I think all semi-& automatic- military style {bump-fire stocks} should have been banned a long time ago. Assembly Bill 1674, or AB 1674, from Assemblyman Miguel Santiago (D-Los Angeles), would prevent Californians from buying more than one rifle or shotgun a month. The Golden State already has a similar restriction on handguns, as does Maryland, New Jersey and the District of Columbia. “Santiago’s AB 1674 would make it a crime for someone to attempt to purchase more than one firearm of any type in any 30-day period,” the Firearms Policy Coalition, a pro-Second Amendment organization, charged. Gun ownership should be a monitored responsibility by the State and Local governments. In conclusion I believe that limiting how many guns a person can buy is the first step to a sane policy while not infringing on the 2nd Amendment for honest gun owners .
It's unlikely that President Donald Trump will take immediate action on gun control following the massacre in Las Vegas, out of fear that he would distance himself from his base and potentially anger the National Rifle Association, an organization the president has developed a close relationship with because of their staunch support throughout his candidacy.Before he departed for Puerto Rico on Tuesday morning, Trump indicated that it's an issue he may approach "as time goes on." President Donald Trump met with victims of Sunday's mass shooting in Las Vegas Wednesday, three days after the attack that killed 58 and injured hundreds.Trump declined to discuss gun control measures, even as a bill was introduced in Washington, D.C., to outlaw the kind of equipment used by the shooter to accelerate his firing capabilities.Asked by a reporter at the University Medical Center in Las Vegas (7)>>if the United States has a "gun violence problem," the president dismissed the question."We're not going to talk about that today," said Trump. "We won't talk about that."
NOTES AND COMMENTS:
(➜)President Obama term.The right and right wing media divided this country when President Barack Obama was elected. The GOP unabashedly and publically proclaimed that they were going to do EVERYTHING to bring failure upon his presidency. Former President Obama addressed mass shootings roughly 18 times during his administration, with some of his most damning comments coming exactly two years before this weekend's deadly shooting in Las Vegas.For Obama, it was the shooting at a community college in Roseburg, Oregon, where nine people were killed Oct. 1, 2015. President Barack Obama announced a plan for reducing gun violence in four parts: closing background check loopholes; banning assault weapons and large capacity magazines; making schools safer; and increasing access to mental health services. No new federal gun control legislation was passed as a result of these proposals. And for President Trump, it was the Sunday shooting at a country music concert in Las Vegas, where at least 59 people were killed and 527 others injured.(⟴)>>"gun control". Gun politics is an area of American politics that is defined primarily by the actions of two groups: gun control and gun rights activists. These groups often disagree on the interpretation of laws and court cases related to firearms as well as about the effects of gun control on crime and public safety. Huffington Post reported in September
2013 that 48% of Americans said gun laws should be made more strict, while 16% said they should be made less strict and 29% said there should be no change.During a study conducted by The Huffington Post*, state gun laws were examined based on various policy approaches through the states across the US, and scored on a points-based scale to each state. The study was conducted by a non-profit organization named The Law Center to prevent Gun Violence. This is relevant as many nations drastically change their gun laws after any incident that targets civilians, so why not the US? Other high-income countries have much stronger gun laws so why haven’t the US change its laws? The background check in the United States basically just confirms the person is not a convicted felon, and it doesn’t allow for much police discretion. Other countries have a much higher bar to pass. For example, England and Japan and almost all other high-income countries with stricter gun laws require gun training before a person can obtain a gun, and once the firearm is obtained, it must be stored properly, and the applicant must have a valid reason to obtain a handgun. States were given positive points to states with stricter measures and stronger gun laws. Positive points were given for states that required background checks on all firearm sales and limit bulk firearms purchases; prohibiting sales of assault weapons and large capacity magazines; stricter evaluation on applications when issuing a handgun concealed carry license especially prohibited domestic violence offenders. On the other hand, points were deducted from states with expanded access to guns; allowed concealed carry in public areas particularly schools and bars without a permit or passed “Stand Your Ground Laws” — which remove the duty to retreat and allow people to shoot potential assailants, ostensibly in self-defense. Eventually, states were graded indicating the overall strengths or weakness of gun laws. Ten States with the Strongest Gun Laws ranked from strongest starting with California, then New Jersey, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Hawaii, New York, Maryland, Illinois, Rhode Island and finally Michigan. The states with weakest gun laws were ranked as follow: South Dakota, Arizona, Mississippi, Vermont, Louisiana, Montana, Wyoming, Kentucky, Kansas, and Oklahoma.The study demonstrates a strong correlation between weak gun laws and increased gun violence deaths. The report also found that the gun death rate tends to get higher as firearms laws get weaker. Stronger gun laws can indeed save lives, the Law Center said several states will soon see such benefits(➽)background checks for the mentally ill. Federal law prohibits selling guns to felons or the mentally ill. Background checks are the only way to enforce that law. So, besides criminals and the insane, who could possibly oppose universal background checks?Gun manufacturers ? The NRA ? The NRA’s website on March 12, 2013, posted its firm stance against expanding background checks. As the gun control debate continues in Washington and throughout the nation, so does the notion of the "Gun Show Loophole." According the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, the loophole includes mandatory background checks on purchases from licensed gun dealers. However private sellers do not need to complete any formal paperwork and thus do not perform investigations on their customers. Unregulated purchases typically take place at gun expos and shows. 40% of all gun transactions in the country occur under the loophole.The FBI sponsors the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). According to the FBI's website, over 100 million checks have been conducted in the past decade and over 700,000 denials have been made. Prior to the complete sale of a firearm(s), a licensed seller must contact the agency for a check to be performed on the prospective buyer.
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| A Dangerous American Institution - The Free and Unarmed Revolver a cartoon from Puck magazine shortly after the assassination of James A. Garfield |
(1)>>mass shootings . While the NRA and "other gun rights " advocates cry about their "liberties" are being infringed . The list of the dead continues to grow . Here from Mother Jones magazine contains a full list of Mass shootings over the decades . { see this LIST here URL : http://bit.ly/1QklBf8 } . (2)>>Even the slightest attempt on how many rounds of ammo was stopped by the NRA Republicans at Congress . Tell me one reason why any non-military person needs a fully automatic weapon. Frankly, limiting magazines to 10 or even 5 rounds on a semi-auto is fine for me. My logic: if a responsible gun owner can't hit something with 5 rounds, or 10, he should not be allowed to own a gun as he/she is incompetent at shooting.Nevertheless, who are those who really want a fully automatic weapon? 16-23 year old males that, by all appearances and actions, needing to over compensate for other shortcomings. They need to prove they are a M-A-N by having a splatter-shoot auto because it's sooooo maaaanly. Simply pathetic. (3)>>Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino. Mass shootings also effect the stock market. Shares of casino operators fell on Monday after the Las Vegas massacre, the deadliest shooting in U.S. history. MGM Resorts International, which owns the Mandalay Bay hotel near where the shooting occurred, fell 5.6 percent Monday. Wynn Resorts slipped 1.2 percent. Las Vegas Sands fell as much as 2.1 percent before closing higher.(4)>>long ignored by the NRA. Hard to believe it’s from the same organization that helped draft the first federal gun controls in 1934’s National Firearms Act, and 1938’s Gun Control Act. In the early 90s, the NRA evolved its Us vs. Them theme, portraying the government as a 1984-like threat to individual freedoms. During the 1992 election, Bill Clinton campaigned against George H.W. Bush by pushing both the Brady Bill, which tightened restrictions on handgun sales, and a national ban on assault rifles. The NRA reacted by warning against an encroaching police state.(5)>>pro-gun activists have come to rely on the Second Amendment as their trusty shield when faced with mass-shooting-induced criticism. The irrational of the head of the NRA reflects what how the gun culture has brainwashed not only people but many Republicans in Congress bought into it . Pro gun activists repeat that . "Guns don't kill people. People kill people." Guns kill people we all know that , the argument that Guns are like climate change in a way. They both are an issue but the people complaining about them have no solution. They just complain. If you're pro-gun. That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. but for gods sake work toward a solution. All you people do is cry about wanting your guns without a solution that keeps scores of people from dying every couple of months. (6)>>Nevada does not limit the number of firearms an individual can possess. The as Vegas shooter had "weapons of mass destruction " at his disposal . When a person buys a lot weapons always should be a red alert . The challenge to limiting gun ownership to 3 guns . Which is my personal option to the pro 2nd Amenders , banning of certain automatic weapons has been on the table of debates since the 1990s. Laws limiting the number of guns someone can buy within a short span of time helps reduce gun trafficking. Interstate trafficking of firearms flourishes, in part, because states regulate sales differently, and there is no federal limit on the number of guns an individual may purchase at any one time. States with weak gun laws attract traffickers who make multiple purchases, and then resell those firearms in states with stronger gun laws. (7)>>if the United States has a "gun violence problem," Really don't you think ? The obvious answer is that our nations history is rooted in guns , ever since the wild wild west guns , the frontier days have created a somewhat fascination with the gun culture in our society . In our society we don't all have normal people who want guns for self defense, but there are people that should be profiled . There are the "normal" gun collectors , but there are a certain few who are obsessed with guns . They show up at gun shows buying guns by the cartloads with boxes and boxes of ammunition . This video exposes gun shows { http://bit.ly/2fW7nH4 } check out the "weapons" being sold in this video . Watch undercover footage that shines a spotlight on these illegal sales at gun shows below. Its all military grade weapons . In 2009, the City of New York conducted a multi-state investigation of gun shows to expose the threat posed by the “gun show loophole,” a term often used to describe the fact that federal law allows private sellers to sell firearms without background checks or record keeping. This loophole is closely associated with gun shows because they’re the largest and most central marketplaces for private sellers to connect with purchasers who are trying to avoid detection.
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