Friday, October 16, 2015

The First Democratic Debate Overview..

Who won the debate is a matter of conjecture . Most Polls say it's  (***)>> Barnie Sanders, even conservative (1)>> Glenn Beck had a few words of praise for the man .Bernie Sanders by all objective measures  may have "won" the debate. Here is my next big observation of both the GOP debate and the DEM debate . It has to do with "quantity" not as much of quality . Yes , the Democrats have fewer runners , the  few in number is suspicious to me .  It's like (3)>> comparing the GOP number of candidates who numbered about 10 . If you count the DEM , they have only 5 which includes their most strongest (2)>>  Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders . Clinton remained unflappable throughout the debate, showcasing her political experience and her command of the issues -- all the while deftly handling criticism of her flip-flops and displaying a humor that put a more human face to her oft-criticized candidacy.Clinton was asked whether she is a progressive or a moderate — an early question that in many ways got to the heart of the Democratic race."I'm a progressive, but I'm a progressive who likes to get things done," Clinton answered.She went on to say she knows how to find common ground and knows how to stand her ground, "even dealing with Republicans who never had a good word to say about me, honestly." As Clinton ended a response about her email controversy, Sanders jumped in, "I think the secretary is right — that is, that the American people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails." The crowd cheered, and he got a partial standing ovation."Thank you. Me, too," Clinton responded. Now with Hillary simply on the incorrect notion that she's the only one who could win in a General election is just not good enough. Sanders climbing popularity highlights on the left, what is happening on the right with Trump. America is done with the status quo corporate sponsored politicians. Sanders showed his limits. As deep as his convictions are and as eloquent as he can be on his core issues--money in politics, inequality--he simply doesn't have that same depth on questions about foreign policy or even, surprisingly, family leave.The ultimate arbiter of who won the debate will, of course, be the public, not the pundits. But we won’t get a reliable reading of public opinion until we see some scientifically conducted surveys based on random samples of Democratic voters. The post-debate online polls weren’t of this type: their samples were self-selecting, and you would expect their results to be skewed toward the candidate with the most-committed supporters. In this race, without a doubt, that is Sanders.




NOTES AND COMMENTS:
(***)>> A trustworthy CNN Poll has : " Hillary Clinton proved without a doubt Tuesday night why she is the Democratic Party's presidential front-runner" . If you take here for face value , she came out vary strong . Firstly, it’s important to point out that online polls, and to a lesser extent focus groups, are obviously not scientific. But it’s also important to point out that the echo chamber musings of establishment liberal pundits is far, far less scientific. It wasn’t that the online polls and focus groups had Sanders winning, it’s that they had him winning by a lot. And it wasn’t just that the pundit class has Clinton winning, it’s that they had her winning by a lot. (3)>> comparing to a number of candidates for me is like a analysis , you can see the the Democrats have fewer choices . It's either Barnie or Hillary . My suspensions are that it's rigged for Mrs. Clinton . Also that Barnie Sanders is just a 3 party candidate among the Democrats as much as Trump is to the Republicans . Their just wolves in sheep's  clothing. In Theory Trump should run as a Independent not as a republican . Bernie Sanders should run as a Socialist . 
(1)>>Beck’s assessment of Sanders: “Good for you. I could be friends with that man, because he tells me who he is. If we can just get past all of the bull crap, and just [say], ‘This is who I am, like me, don’t like me, agree with me, don’t agree with me,’ that’s fine.” Stelter, the host of CNN’s “Reliable Sources,” asked Beck about his sometimes controversial persona, and Beck responded by urging unity and recounting personal friendships he had developed with those who might disagree with him.“I will make friends with anybody on any side,” Beck said, before saying something unexpected about one of the most progressive members of Congress.“You know who I really respect — and this is going to come as a shock — in Congress is Bernie Sanders,” Beck said. “Never met the man, but he’s a Socialist, and he says, ‘I’m a socialist that’s just the way it is, I’m this close to a communist and that’s how it is and that’s what I believe.’”(2)>> Hillary has slipped more and more on those same polls that say she's winning. She slips while Bernie rises. Six months later, who do you think will be in the lead if the trend continues? Any rational person who sees a pattern like this, won't place bets against its likely outcome.Clinton is more electable in the general election than Sanders. Personally, I prefer Sanders over Clinton, but I think Clinton has a better chance at winning the presidency. Sanders has good ideas for domestic policy to roll back the control of the 1% that now owns our government, but BOTH  seems are  very weak on international issues.

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