THE Epstein LIST BIG FAIL?

The Trump administration's Justice Department walked back the notion that there's a Jeffrey Epstein client list, sparking controversy.

The Epstein list is BIG EPIC FAIL,

Because no one is going to be

prosecuted.

Can I ask you a question, a serious one? Who else, other than the people already tried, and acquitted and convicted, do you think was implicated in what exactly? Those papers were poured over by hundreds, and the relevant authorities did in fact go after people who's crimes were exposed by them...but people still act like they were ignored. What am I missing here? The biggest thing for me about the list is what would it even mean. Do people think it's going to be a list of names and crimes next to each name? Or is it more likely it's a list of names without context. And then what? Epstein provided financial services to the wealthy and I am sure he had lots of lists of clients. Names on a list don't really prove anything. While I am sure there is shady shit to uncover I really don't think the list is going to end up meaning much Federal evidence—especially the kind tied to Epstein-level cases—isn’t sitting on some intern’s Dropbox or casually passed around like a BuzzFeed quiz result. This stuff is locked down tighter than a Swiss bank account wrapped in Fort Knox, double-encrypted, and tattooed with audit trails so deep you’d think the NSA designed them. Spoiler: sometimes, they did. What's actually needed is a full and proper legal investigation into Epstein and his associates. Epstein was a very influential and well known celebrity. The result would be guilt by association, everyone would be assumed to be part of a criminal conspiracy when in fact Epstein was targeting those people for various reasons, blackmail, influence and secrets. At worst some of those people would even be killed by vigilantes after people hype up the eat the rich mantra. The second effect is that it would set a precedence in law where other lawyers could get and release the names of anyone who has ever been at a crime scene. The victims have already named those guilty and not guilty and if the law has not caught up to these the push should be to do so, not release the names of people who have nothing to do with it.   A list of names without context is just going to allow people to read into it whatever they want to believe is true. Rest from D.C. madness. No one mentions Epstine, Inc is a criminal-conspiracy formed & operated by Israel-Mossad to corrupt target US Officials & VIPs' for Israeli-Blackmail.  What about the other exploited underaged victims? Ban & prohibit zionists & secret-societies from the US. And even if there was a "list", it proves nothing or very little, and will achieve even less. Just like the dumbass CEO hooking up with his CPO in a Coldplay concert, it's the "drama around it" that is the smoke. If they would have played along, no one would be talking about it anymore. "Yeah, my name is on a address book or whatever. I worked with/for him. He helped me in X/Y/Z. It's not a crime to know people, it's also not a crime for people to write your name down. Unless you have concrete proof (video, pictures, truthful testimonials, etc) this is a whole lot of nothing" But the fact they are all panicking about it, says more than the release of that list will. Trump, and EVERYONE around him, were idiots to talk about this case for political gain, because now they CAN'T release the list or face a TRILLION $ lawsuit. Trump, of course, will never admit any wrongdoing - so he can't just come out and say "we were morons to talk about an ongoing investigation". The idiots on the republican side who keep pushing it are just highlighting his incompetence - which is why he's hostile to them (again, he won't admit wrong doing). And the idiots on the DEM side who keep pushing it, are getting their own party involved in what is, at the moment, TRUMP's mess. And That's why you've got various people on the right telling people to drop this - THEY actually UNDERSTAND what a massive mistake it was to talk about it in the first place,  and want it to blow over.  Who would have thought that a suicide in federal lockup during President Trump's first term would be a major speed bump six years later in Trump's second term? But the death of disgraced financier and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein back in 2019 is now causing turmoil in MAGA world. Many in Trump's base are furious about his administration's handling of the Epstein files. And its also why Nancy Pelosi was telling the Dems to drop the issue - she can smell a Trillion $ lawsuit coming down the road, and wants nothing to do with it.The biggest shock would be if people started believing the many women who have already reported being assaulted when they were minors at Epstein events, by people including Trump, and actually focused on the victims instead of the intrigue and scandal of the famous perpetrators.No one mentions Epstine, Inc is a criminal-conspiracy formed & operated by Israel-Mossad to corrupt target US Officials & VIPs' for Israeli-Blackmail. What about the other exploited underaged victims? Ban & prohibit Zionists & secret-societies from the US. So Ghislaine Maxwell is doing 20 years in prison for nothing happening or are they gonna say sorry and let her out. I would imagine the latter.Ghislaine Maxwell might start naming names, but only the ones she's told to. The Epstein files expose corruption so deep it threatens both parties. That’s why the real list stays sealed and she’s the only one in prison.Too many are focused on the wrong parts of the story here and treating it like it’s all salacious and juicy gossip rather than horrific crimes.

CONSPIRACY TIME PART 2

EPSTEIN FILES is the biggest 
CONSPIRACY of
the 21st Century.
Why are they hiding it ?

YOU WANT a GOOD 💯 😊 CONSPIRACY 😝. Thank you President Trump. You made a big historical mistake. What are YOU afraid of the Epstein Client list??? There’s a lot of people that want to believe that their Guy isn’t involved. On both red and blue sides. A lot of people that would side with partisan politics over choosing the rape victims side. That’s pretty sad isn’t it?? I don’t want those type of people in government

NEW YORK — President Donald Trump is lashing out at his own supporters, accusing them of being duped by Democrats, as he tries to clamp down on criticism over his administration’s handling of much-hyped records in the Jeffrey Epstein sex trafficking investigation, which Trump now calls a “Hoax.”.    As his supporters erupt over the Justice Department’s failure to release much-hyped records in Jeffrey Epstein’s sex trafficking investigation, President Donald Trump’s strategy has been to downplay the issue.  As right-wing outrage over Epstein dominates the political conversation, Democrats and other Trump rivals have been taking advantage. Several Democratic lawmakers have called for the release of all Epstein files and suggested Trump could be resisting because he or someone close to him is featured in them. Conservatives expressed concerns that Trump’s approach on Epstein could hurt them in the midterms.  His problem? That nothing-to-see-here approach doesn’t work for those who have learned from him that they must not give up until the government’s deepest, darkest secrets are exposed. On Saturday, Trump used his Truth Social platform to again attempt to call supporters off the Epstein trail amid reports of infighting between Bondi and FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino over the issue. He suggested the turmoil was undermining his administration — “all over a guy who never dies, Jeffrey Epstein.” That did little to mollify Trump’s supporters, who urged him to release the files or risk losing his base. 

Lies and More Lies . BIG COVER UP!

List, files, videos or not, at this point it doesn’t matter much given how the administration is full of chronic liars and grifters anyway. What matters is these were the same people using the Epstein files as a political weapon to demonize democrats or “the left” for 6 years by trying to claim they run a global pedo cabal. And they were going to expose it to the world if Trump got elected. Now those same people are doing a perfect 180 on all their previous claims, with no spine to admit they were wrong previously. Hyping the alleged documentation was always a bizarre reaction, because there is one person we all know 100% socialized with Epstein and seemed to be aware of his proclivities while doing nothing about them: Donald Trump. The words came out of his own mouth. The gymnastics required to weaponize this situation against Democrats while simultaneously deflecting attention from Trump has been one of the most insane things I have seen the GOP attempt. Therefore, just to mention the elephant in the room, of course, to now say there is no evidence whatsoever, after so much furor and so many confident claims, has a weird aroma. Unfortunately, however odd the smell and optics might be, we are in a situation where I don’t think any of us can form any reliable suspicions, let alone discern what the actual facts might be. The unfortunate thing about coverups, if indeed this is a coverup at all, is that sometimes they work. Bottom line, I don’t think I have any clearer view of this horrible affair than I did a week ago. My skepticism compels me to admit I am in no position to reach any conclusion with any certainty.

The point is, either way, they’re vile liars.

Israel and Epstein?

Jeffrey Epstein “may” not have worked for them formally but he definitely knew about them because Maxwell was tied to Mossad through her father. That said, nobody operates like Epstein did without protection from either Mossad or the cia. It’s just not a thing judging by how easily the U.S. government shuts down traffickers and dark web sites on a regular basis. The same former Mossad operative (Ari Ben-Menashe) that blew the whistle on Robert Maxwell also confirmed Epstein worked for Israel. It should be noted that Maxwell himself died under suspicious circumstances (falling overboard off his yacht).Epstein met with Ehud Barak over thirty times. He fled to Israel in 2008 to avoid the initial investigation into him - he only returned when he suddenly received that notorious plea deal from Alexander Acosta (Acosta later said that he was told 'Epstein belonged to intelligence and to leave it alone'). After his arrest they recovered a counterfeit passport that looked to have been used extensively.Was Epstein an Israeli intelligence asset? I don't know. But to pretend like this is just antisemitic propaganda falling out of the clear blue sky is laughable. 

The Conclusion Speculation.

 The way Trump, Bondi and other are handling this now is digging themselves into a massive hole and that screams that there is a far bigger risk. I DON'T think Trump is primarily worried about his own inclusion. I think the bigger problem is dozens of other powerful paedophiles he is somehow obliged to protect.I think others that are on the list or in the evidence have a lot more risk than Trump does, as he is essentially immune to investigations, lawsuits, divorce and can brush off a lot of public scrutiny and he has the full power of the DOJ to illegitimately defend him or shut down threats. Given how many times Trump was on the flights, at the island and cohorting with Epstein over many years he must have also been interacting with other Predators and paedophiles. Those people must know a lot more than what is in the Epstein evidence and if they go down they can spill serious evidence on Trump. These are likely many very powerful and (ironically) credible people with lots of resources to go scorched earth on Trump if he feeds them to the wolves. Trump is likely trapped in a position where he knows he has to protect all the other Epstein paedophiles for fear of what a few of them could expose about his own involvement. It is also highly likely that Trump has extorted many of these people already and many may have been forced to support his campaign. At least a few of them would be smart enough to have insurance..This also correlates to his statement regarding the files and the risk to 'people'. This better explains the otherwise irrational actions of Bondi etc. Than simply protecting Trump himself which could be done in a less destructive way. 

     

TRUMP CHAOS.

TRUMP seems to started off
into a road trip into
Chaos 💥 😂 

Trump’s chaos is a deliberate strategy I don’t believe Donald Trump’s chaotic policies stem from incompetence, impulsivity, or even cognitive decline. Donald Trump is struggling to contain a spiralling crisis over his administration’s handling EVERYTHING, Russia - Ukraine for example. Or THE EPSTEIN FILES .They reflect a deliberate strategy to obscure systemic corruption that benefits him and his inner circle. It’s more calculated than random, if you take a closer look at the pattern.Many of Trump’s statements and actions reliably dominate headlines and global discourse. The Department of Justice’s announcement that it did not have a list of Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged clients, and that the convicted sex offender was not murdered, has plunged the rightwing world into turmoil.Conservative commentators and media figures, some of whom spent years pushing conspiracy theories about Epstein’s death, have accused the government of covering up the hedge fund manager’s crimes, with calls growing for Pam Bondi, the attorney general, to resign.The political theater redirects attention away from deeper scrutiny, especially investigations into financial entanglements or ethically compromised policy decisions that may serve personal or familial gain.The consistency of this pattern is difficult to ignore. It suggests not dysfunction, but intent. These polarizing, high-visibility moves play directly into the media cycle and exploit public attention limits. The outcome is outrage fatigue and reduced focus on more consequential misconduct.A person in genuine cognitive decline, or someone acting purely on impulse, would struggle to maintain this level of strategic diversion. The execution implies coordination, not confusion.If you believe Trump’s actions are genuinely irrational or simply the result of incompetence, I’m open to hearing that case. 

The CHAOS of TRUMP. 

The cacophony makes it almost impossible to work out what actually matters: of the dozen or so noisy issues on any given day, which will still matter in a week or a month’s time? In the last few days alone, Trump has threatened to strip comedian Rosie O’Donnell of her citizenship, has ordered the arrest (or worse) of protestors opposing mass deportations, and embroiled himself in a row with his own supporters over Jeffrey Epstein. Amid all these attention-draining rows it becomes all too easy to miss that on Saturday, Trump also announced a new round of tariffs with two of the USA’s most significant trading partners. In his new letters, Trump announced 30 per cent blanket tariffs on both the EU and on Mexico, which are due to take force on 1 August.  The EU is the largest trading bloc in the world, while Mexico, as the USA’s southern neighbour, is its single largest trading partner. Tariffs of 30 per cent would devastate global trade, hurt the US economy more than anyone else’s, and lead to a wave of job losses and business failures across the world that could threaten the global economy. Worse, for the USA at least, it would do all of that while raising prices (and so inflation) for American consumers. The problem for Trump is that when it comes to tariffs, he’s the President who cried wolf. The first time the US president announces devastating trade tariffs, alarmed world leaders take note – they call emergency meetings, they brief the media, and the planet scrambles to respond.  But this isn’t the first time: Trump has announced and then delayed or altered tariffs so many times in recent months that everyone is almost fatigued. The latest developments prompted weary press statements from the EU and Mexico, but little more.   Trump announced tariffs on almost every country in the world from the White House Rose Garden in April. The President has a bizarre understanding of global trade in which he assumes that if the US buys more from another country than it sells back to it, then that country is doing something unfair. 

More TRADE WARS.

That doesn’t make sense on a number of levels. The US is both a very large and a very rich country – most nations with which it trades are smaller and poorer. By Trump’s logic, if America buys coffee beans, bananas, or raw materials from a poor country, it should somehow be buying expensive manufacturing goods worth equal value from America – items it simply can’t afford.Similarly, the US buys in a lot of the goods Americans consume, but it exports services – almost every global big tech company is American, and the profits flow back to America. Trump ignores all of this because it doesn’t show up in trade figures. 

TRUMP, Markets AND WAR.

 The danger is that without all of those alarms and all of that panic, this time there’s nothing to steer the president off course. Trump is a volatile man and he is fixated on his bizarre trade policy, and the imagined injustices that rationalise it.  All other countries need to do right now is sit back and wait for the find out phase. Everyone knows where it is going to do which is why Trump is getting desperate. He needs distractions and a big win. Reality is nothing is going to distract from that pedophile and the find out section of the Tariff's and the instability will start hitting soon enough. When other countries stop bothering to work with him and use their actual leverage, Trump will be so far in a corner he will be all but done.... his political capital will have been wasted and his people will be forced to undo his bullshit or get dragged down with him. The Trump administration’s “move fast and break things” approach to foreign policy has been consistent only in its chaos. There have been rapid shifts in America’s approach to high-profile global conflicts: pivoting to negotiations with Russia, promoting a cease-fire in Gaza, and oscillating between threats of military action against Iran and offers of a newly negotiated nuclear deal. Trump's foreign policy, but the truth is that no framework is required. Trump doesn't understand even the rudiments of foreign policy, and he doesn't care. He will do anything that he *feels* will make him money, bring him attention, and limit any personal consequences of his actions. That's all there is to it. This is a whole clusterfuck…. Iran uses missiles supplied by Russia, and Putin is talking of backing Iran with more weapons and missiles. Plus China is also backing Iran.Meanwhile our president is calling Putin and asking his advice…. " We had a GOOD 💯 CONVERSATIONS 😜"  Like are you absolutely fucking kidding me? Putin has so much to gain from this. But does Trump see that? No. He thinks he’s hot shit and Putin is scared of him. But Putin finds him to be the biggest joke to ever take White House since Joe Sleepy Joe Biden.Trump has made the country look weak and out of control. Canada has fucking said it is no longer backing us.Trump has isolated the US, made enemies of every country, and started almost another war . As it stands, Trump will devastate global trade on 1 August – a time when many world leaders and senior traders alike are usually away from their desks and on holiday, leaving their juniors in charge. Perhaps Trump will chicken out again. He’s done it enough times before, after all. But if he doesn’t, it could be a turbulent summer indeed.  

  

The END of Benjamin Natanyahu.

Prediction,  that Bibi
Natanyahu will be 
either overthrown or 
Assassinated in the
Next few years . Unless 
he resigns .

The War between Israel and Iran started by Bibi Natanyahu may have spelled the end of his political career . Possible the end of the State of Israel as we know it .Is it correct to say that Netanyahu doesn't want to call an election and is using the war to delay political accountability? The pre-emptive irrational attack on Iran has set into motion terrible consequences for the whole world. Internationally, Israel is looking increasingly isolated, as images of the starvation it is inflicting on Gaza flood global media. Domestically, Netanyahu faces deep criticism of a war many believe he is only prolonging to stay in power. Legally, the prosecution in his corruption trial has begun its cross-examination of him, while politically, he is facing a possible collapse of his governing coalition. While he is in power, no progress can be made. The only troubling question is how much damage will he inflict before he departs, especially given that there is a three month period when he could do considerable damage once his government falls and before a new government is elected and formed. The war with Iran has put him on a spot that he is basically dragging Israel down with him . 

Bibi is a warmonger.

Edit: Everyone is operating on the mistaken assumption that Israel or anyone else is actually capable of preventing Iran from developing a nuke. All evidence seems to indicate that only an insignificant delay is possible due to the existence of Fortow. I do not think any state has a bunker busting bomb that is capable of destroying a site that is embedded a half mile beneath a mountain. The most powerful publicly known bunker buster is the recently developed Hyunmoo 5 from Korea that is capable of penetrating 100m into the ground. Previous most capable bomb was the American GBU-57 that maxed out at 61m...a half mile is 1609m ffs...there is no bomb capable of taking something out that deep short of the most powerful nuclear bomb ever detonated on the planet by the Soviets....nobody is taking out Fortow and therefore its more than reasonable to conclude that it is not possible to prevent Iran from developing a nuke. To assume that it is possible defies all common sense and logic and is a bit delusional.

Bibi Natanyahu is the end of modern Israel.

The strike on Iran was a reckless self serving act of warmongering by Bibi meant to embroil Israel in a far more perilous and extensive confontation that will ensure that he maintains his grip on power. Bibi has always been a warmonger..he lobbied hard for America's disastrous invasion of Iraq and has continuosly sought to manipulate America into conflict, which is exactly what this is as well .And here's the biggest reason why Bibi is a reckless warmonger who is endangering not only Israel, but American assets and personnel in the region with this act of all out war. The casus belli for this act of war is illegitimate as Israel is incapable of preventing Iran from developing a nuke, short of launching an all out nuclear assault on Iran...this only temporarily delays things at best...why? Per the NYTimes:

Dragging America to war is a sin.

" (\*Fordow) is an Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps base, and is deep within a mountain — nearly a half-mile under the surface, according to Rafael Mariano Grossi, the director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency, who has visited the site. “If you don’t get Fordow,” Brett McGurk, who has served as Middle East coordinator for several American presidents of both parties, “you haven’t eliminated their ability to produce weapons-grade material.” American officials have said Israel does not have the bunker-busting bombs to get at that facility, where Iran’s most advanced centrifuges have been installed. And if Fordow survives the attacks, then there is a good chance the key technology of the country’s the nuclear program will survive with it."\* Trump has already ruled out any American involvment...Iran's nuclear program will survive. If anything this will motivate them to accelerate their development. Also, the nuclear threat to Israel is vastly overstated and I base that simply on geography. Israel is a small nation surrounded by many other nations. The nuclear annihilation of Israel would be a guaranteed catastrophe for the entire region from the fallout from any major nuclear attack.. Doesn't matter how many times the Ayatollah has called for the destruction of Israel. Politicians and dictators pandering to their people is one thing, actually doing is another. North Korea threatens to annihilate South Korea and the United States on a daily basis and will never actually do it short of a last gasp attempt at taking down as many with them if the regime collapses. The entire purpose and intent of North Korea's nuke development was regime survival..the exact same is true for Iran. The prospect of Iran actually launching an offensive first strike nuclear attack on Israel is about as implausible as it gets. This strike was not an act for survival and the stated objective is one that is unachievable. The strikes on the six nuclear scientists has once again resulted in exponentially more innocent civilian lives being killed by taking out the scientist and their families and any other families who had the misfortune of being within the blast radius of the big ass missile or bomb the IAF hit them with...many will just handwave this away as fair play as if its ever justified to kill someone's family and neighbors just to kill one individual. This was a cynical, self serving act of warmongering that endangers Israeli lives. Already know the legion of Israelis and Jews on this sub will insist otherwise but at least try to put forth sensible arguments as to why that is instead of just saying so like most usually do. The main point I challenge anyone to refute is to how this strike makes any sense if Fordow cannot be taken out...

 I think Bibi has less than a year, but he's going to kick and scream until he's gone.

"overthrown" - no.and 🙂‍↕️ Yes .

His coalition falling - maybe. There are a few reasons this could happen.

First, understand the makeup of Bibi's coalition. There are five parties. Likud is Bibi's party. They stand for nothing, believe nothing, and really only care about staying in power, with Bibi at their helm. UTJ is an Ashkenazi Haredi party. They stand for Haredim not having to enlist, and agreeing with the policy decisions of whomever is willing to support that. Shas is the Sephardi Haredi party. They stand for basically the same as what UTJ stands for, but are more willing to work within Israeli society and norms to make that happen. Religious Zionism is a far right party that advocates the displacement of all Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza. Otzma Yehudit (Jewish Power) is the slightly more right wing version of Religious Zionism (they ran together in the last elections, and split up once they were in the Knesset). How could the government break up?

1. There's internal strife in the coalition. This current government is not some group of people who all love each other and get along and have a unified vision. Bibi's coalition shares some ideological principles. MOSTLY, it's a group of five parties that all hate each others' guts, who are vaguely willing to work together because they are all collectively the only people willing to work with any of the other coalition parties. The biggest ideological difference that might damage the coalition is Haredi conscription. The Haredim don't want to enlist in the IDF, and roughly 100% of all non-Haredi Israelis want Haredim to enlist.  2. Another significant issue in front of the coalition is obviously Gaza. The Haredim want the war over, if only because it takes pressure to enlist off of them. RZ and OY do not want the war to end until there aren't any more Palestinians between the river and the sea. That's a fairly significant point of conflict. 3. (this is the most realistic) The government has a year and a bit left before it is automatically collapsed and new elections are called. That's Israeli law - governments stay together for 4 years at most. It is never advantageous for an Israeli leader intending to stay in power to let the government collapse at 4 years. It is always politically advantageous to collapse the government when the time is in your favor. I think Bibi was actually planning on collapsing the government fairly recently, by striking Iran, and riding a popularity surge around that to an electoral advantage. DJT negotiating with Iran harms that for Bibi. Regardless, Bibi doesn't want his government to fall, he wants to take down his own government (when the time is right for him). I don't know what that looks like. It could be a strike on Iran, it could be a permanent ceasefire in Gaza, I'm not sure.

What happens when new elections are called?

Every single poll, without fail, since October 7 2023 has shown Bibi no longer has majority support in Israel. Every single poll has shown the current five governing parties (sitting at 68 seats, out of 120) pulling a combined 52ish seats. Naftali Bennett is the most likely next prime minister. He's personally very right wing, but he governs as a centrist, because any coalition he could build would have a combo of right wing and left wing parties. You could expect a permanent end to the war in Gaza, and potentially peace with the Saudis under PM Bennett. Probably not anything more intense in either direction, like occupation of Gaza, annexation of the West Bank, or a 2 state solution. Israel’s ruling coalition is facing its most serious crisis yet. Two of the country’s ultra-Orthodox parties — United Torah Judaism and Shas — announced they are quitting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government over proposed changes to long-standing rules that exempt ultra-Orthodox students from Israel’s military draft. The split is likely to collapse the coalition. The centrist opposition Yesh Atid party has already filed a motion to dissolve the Knesset, Israel’s legislature. A vote on that, set for June 11, is likely to succeed, triggering a general election by November. The withdrawal of the two parties came in response to a bill introduced by a member of Netanyahu’s Likud party that would curtail military exemptions. The ultra-Orthodox community has largely been exempted from military service since Israel’s founding, but that arrangement is under growing strain as the Gaza war stretches Israel’s manpower, forcing repeated reserve call-ups that have generated increasing public anger at this exemption. Bibi is going to fight all of this. He is going to rabble rouse, and kick and scream until he is out of politics. That is his nature. Israelis should throw him to the curb.