This week was a tense debate regarding the separation of children from parents who are entering our nation illegally . PLEASE BARE WITH ME on this subject . I first don't want to accused of being a racist , not for immigrants . It's so easy for any reader to miss -interpret what I am saying { example I told someone that Presidents Obama & Clinton did the same thing , and I got a mouthful } . Second , I see the separation of parents and their children as deplorable . My READERS listen up, just what do you do with all these people? They have no documentation first of all . IF I were one of them , yea locked up in cages -pens , yea just think if I were from Mexico . I'd put in my back pack a birth certificate of some kind to identify my self . But the reality is many of these people who sneak across the border as "undocumented" . We just don't know who they are . They have no paperwork to identify them . A small percentage of them could be criminals . The young children as SAD as it really is could be , I don't want to put a label , but it reminds me of "human shields" used by adults [ parents?] to smuggle criminal adults in the country . We don't even know if the parents of those children are really the PARENTS of the children ! . So obviously we have to exercise some kind of caution and concern till be have identified the parents before we reunite the (##)>>"Children" and the "parents". So if the Parents are real . they took their children with then , its really child endangerment. So there has to be steps to identify if any legal relatives in America . But I am inclined to say that some of them need to be deported back . What BUT you have to understand that what the Trump administration did was in accordance to a law that was settled out court back in 1995 . YES ! This law was basically put on the shelf until the (1.1>>Republican hardliners like Jeff Sessions sought to follow the latter of the law to detain illegals crossing the border, it involves the separation of children. Its vary ridiculous as a law , its painful , its tear jerking (1.2)>>But It costs a lot of money to keep these people & children detained for any length of time. But this form of separating children from their parents [ illegal aliens, etc] was going on for a long while as part of law enforcement , cracking down on undocumented aliens . Everything just exploded out in the open media . BUT it was not the first time this happened. In 2015 President Obama took action in one of the largest attempts of deportation Obama actually expanded the system of detaining families – typically mothers and their minor children – after a huge surge of Central Americans along the U.S.-Mexican border in 2014. The policy resulted in many minors being detained in various locations, in much-criticized conditions, either with their families or by themselves, if they had crossed the border alone. Videos and photos at the time showed children in tears, many of them still wearing dirty clothes, in detention facilities where they were kept with their families. The conditions -- which ranged from six adults and children sleeping crammed on two mattresses laid out on concrete floors, to sick minors not receiving medical care -- were documented in many news accounts and reports by human rights groups. Again the point here is (1.2.2 )>>Obama did the same thing . We know that President Trump (1.2.3)>>accused the Democrats of upholding a 'deportation law', since the Department of Homeland Security has sent nearly 2,000 children to mass detention centers or foster care. More than 100 of these children are younger than 4 years old. The reason for these separations is a zero-tolerance policy for their parents, who are accused of illegally crossing our borders. So here is a shocking realization . While separating children from parents who enter the nation is really immoral . It has been going on for the last 30 years or more . And another shocking twist is that the Democrats under President Bill Clinton , and his Iron lady Attorney General Janet Reno back in 1995 had a zero tolerance policy on immigration .Seeing all the protesters now, (1.3)>>it shows how little Americans remember what
Bill Clinton did , which was greater under Reno than Sessions. (2)>>President Clinton turned far to the right on enforcing immigration control . Clinton it seemed back in 1995 echoed the vary same Trump style populist agenda that Trump is exposing . And he said a few things that would shock any American right now .So remembering a news briefing way back Clinton acknowledged that the US "was built by immigrants," but he then asserted that the US "won't tolerate immigration by people whose first act is to break the law as they enter the country." An April 1995 Times Mirror poll found that 62 percent of all Americans, up from 58 percent in March 1994, believe that the US is losing ground in dealing with illegal immigration. On May 6, 1995, President Clinton pledged to expedite the deportation of criminal aliens from the US. Under US law, there must be a separate proceeding to determine whether convicted "criminal aliens" should be deported. The US deported about 40,000 aliens who had been convicted of crimes in 1994, and there is a backlog of another 100,000 awaiting deportation. US Attorney General Janet Reno announced on May 22 a one-month pilot program at the Men's Central Jail in Los Angeles that would place 46 INS agents at the facility to detain all illegal immigrants upon their release. The inmates will be taken into federal custody, transported to a special immigration court, and promptly deported, most on the same day they are released from jail. The answer is, essentially, that on some level the Clinton administration really did want to look tough on immigration. And that was more important than vetoing a bill because some in the administration didn't like its policy provision
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(##)>>"Children".In 1985, Jenny Lisette Flores, an unaccompanied 15-year-old girl from El Salvador, was apprehended by the Immigration and Naturalization Service after illegally attempting to cross the Mexico-United States border. The unaccompanied minor was taken to a detention facility where she was held among adults of both sexes, was daily strip searched, and was told she would only be released to the custody of her parents, who, INS suspected, were illegal immigrants. On July 11, 1985, the Center for Human Rights and Constitutional Law filed a class action lawsuit against U.S. Attorney General Edwin Meese, alleging that the government’s detention and release policies were in violation of the children’s rights under the Equal Protection Clause and the Due Process Clause of the United States Constitution. The administration has fingered Flores v. Reno, or the “Flores settlement,” as the reason it is “forced” to separate parents from their children to prosecute them. It claims that because it cannot keep parents and children in immigration detention together, it has no choice but to detain parents in immigration detention (after they’ve been criminally prosecuted for illegal entry) and send the children to the Department of Health and Human Services as “unaccompanied alien children.” The Flores settlement requires the federal government to do two things: to place children with a close relative or family friend “without unnecessary delay,” rather than keeping them in custody; and to keep immigrant children who are in custody in the “least restrictive conditions” possible.The situation of accompanied children, on the other hand, went largely under the radar (the legislation requiring the change in custody from INS to ORR only applied to unaccompanied children). One exception was a lawsuit challenging the deplorable conditions at the former T. Don Hutto facility in Texas, which detained accompanied children with their parents. The federal government agreed to close the controversial Hutto facility in 2009 and only one family detention center remained in the United States, in Berks County, Pennsylvania.
v=wejt939QXko ] If evaluating Obama’s record is a matter of tallying two columns — in one, the number of people he protected from removal; in the other, the number deported — the court went a long way toward tipping the ledger toward the latter. The video shows that Obama followed the similar policy, hoping to broker a deal . (1.2.3)>>accused the Democrats. A larger explanation is political. Between 2008 and 2016, Democrats became more and more confident that the country’s growing Latino population gave the party an electoral edge. To win the presidency, Democrats convinced themselves, they didn’t need to reassure white people skeptical of immigration so long as they turned out their Latino base. “The fastest-growing sector of the American electorate stampeded toward the Democrats this November,” Salon declared after Obama’s 2008 win. “If that pattern continues, the GOP is doomed to 40 years of wandering in a desert.”As the Democrats grew more reliant on Latino votes, they were more influenced by pro-immigrant activism. While Obama was running for reelection, immigrants’-rights advocates launched protests against the administration’s deportation practices; these protests culminated, in June 2012, in a sit-in at an Obama campaign office in Denver. Ten days later, the administration announced that it would defer the deportation of undocumented immigrants who had arrived in the U.S. before the age of 16 and met various other criteria. Obama, The New York Times noted, “was facing growing pressure from Latino leaders and Democrats who warned that because of his harsh immigration enforcement, his support was lagging among Latinos who could be crucial voters in his race for re-election.”
(1.3)>>it shows how little Americans remember what Bill Clinton did.On May 3, 1995, Senators Kennedy (D-MA), Boxer (D-CA), and Simon (D-IL), formally introduced President Clinton's proposals to deal with illegal immigration, S754, the Immigration Enforcement Improvements Act of 1995. The Administration bill is similar to the proposal of Senator Simpson (R-WY), S 269, increasing the likelihood that immigration reform will be enacted in 1995. (2)>>President Clinton turned far to the right on enforcing immigration control . Unlike some of the Clinton-era laws that the Democratic Party has now moved to the left of — like the 1994 crime bill and welfare reform — IIRIRA was not President Clinton's bill. It was Republicans who'd pressed the issue of tightening immigration restrictions during the 1994 campaign (both in Congress and in California, where Gov. Pete Wilson rode to reelection on a ballot proposition severely restricting unauthorized immigrants' use of state services like public schools).When Republicans won the House of Representatives in 1994, they — and especially Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX), the new chair of the Immigration Subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee — came in with a mission. "They were about the business of really toughening up immigration law," says Doris Meissner, who was head of the Immigration and Naturalization Service at the time. "And that is what they did" — sticking immigration provisions in welfare reform and the Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996 (or AEDPA). The 1997 law that Mr. Clinton signed says minor children who enter the United States illegally must be separated from their parents who are sent to jail because they crossed the border illegally. Because children cannot accompany their parents to jail, they are separated and sent elsewhere, either shelters or foster homes.There was no single provision of the 1996 law that was as dramatic as the 1986 "amnesty" law, signed by President Reagan, which is why he gets credit for the last major immigration reform. But the '96 law essentially invented immigration enforcement as we know it today — where deportation is a constant and plausible threat to millions of immigrants. (3)>>That includes lower-skilled immigrants .Well, illegal immigrants do not get 'good jobs'. They are taking the jobs no one else wants. This includes almost anything outdoors (not involving a football), for example picking fruits and vegetables, dairy and other agriculture, construction, lawn work, and indoors, house cleaning. Most of these jobs pay around the minimum wage, and often involve travel and difficult working conditions. Very few Americans aspire to these jobs anymore—that's how we know we're a rich country.
HOW AMERICA NEEDS TO FIX ITS IMMIGRATION PROBLEM.
Rep. Senator Paul Ryan says this about nations immigration problem .
" Currently, there are 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the United States. Because these immigrants are here undocumented, and are consequently outside the scope of the law, we often do not know who they are or the activities in which they are engaged. There are also immigrants who attempt to come to this country by legal means and find themselves wrapped up in endless paperwork and bureaucracy, and in turn, live in the United States unauthorized. The result of these failures is a system that encourages people to break the law, and punishes those who follow it. To be clear, as we work to fix this broken system, I do not support granting amnesty to illegal immigrants. We need immigration reform that respects the rule of law, and is fair to those immigrants who have played by the rules."In 2008, the Democratic platform called undocumented immigrants “our neighbors.” But it also warned, “We cannot continue to allow people to enter the United States undetected, undocumented, and unchecked,” adding that “those who enter our country’s borders illegally, and those who employ them, disrespect the rule of the law.” By 2016, such language was gone. The party’s platform described America’s immigration system as a problem, but not illegal immigration itself. And it focused almost entirely on the forms of immigration enforcement that Democrats opposed. In its immigration section, the 2008 platform referred three times to people entering the country “illegally.” The immigration section of the 2016 platform didn’t use the word illegal, or any variation of it, at all. There are two GOP bills being considered on immigration: the so-called Goodlatte bill, and the compromise bill put forward by Speaker of the House Paul Ryan (R-WI). According to the House GOP source, “The drafts of both bills clarify the Flores Settlement by ensuring accompanied alien minors apprehended at the border can remain with their parent or legal guardian while in DHS custody. Drafters are also working to include a provision that not only addresses DHS custody but DOJ custody as well.” The vast majority of undocumented workers aren’t criminals. A comprehensive 2015 study by the National Academy of Sciences concluded, “Immigrants are less likely than the native-born to commit crimes, and neighborhoods with greater concentrations of immigrants have much lower rates of crime and violence than comparable non-immigrant neighborhoods.”In the case of immigration, the sorry truth is that the government provides only about one third as many visas as needed by U.S. businesses, primarily in agriculture and construction, even as these businesses are unable to find Americans to fill these jobs. President Trump argues that Americans want 'good jobs'.(3)>>That includes lower-skilled immigrants from Mexico and Central America, who are the most likely to be in the United States without documentation.Almost all illegal immigrants are peaceful, hard-working members of their communities. Most belong to families that include U.S. citizens and citizen children. A majority have lived in the United States for more than half a decade, a third for a full decade or more. They fill vital jobs in sectors such as agriculture, hospitality, retail and other services. Yanking them from the workplace would cause those industries to contract, reducing investment, and putting at risk the jobs of managers, accountants, sales representatives and other middle-class U.S. citizens.The only humane and practical solution to illegal immigration is earned legalization for those who are already living and working here, and expanded opportunities for the legal entry of future workers.
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(##)>>"Children".In 1985, Jenny Lisette Flores, an unaccompanied 15-year-old girl from El Salvador, was apprehended by the Immigration and Naturalization Service after illegally attempting to cross the Mexico-United States border. The unaccompanied minor was taken to a detention facility where she was held among adults of both sexes, was daily strip searched, and was told she would only be released to the custody of her parents, who, INS suspected, were illegal immigrants. On July 11, 1985, the Center for Human Rights and Constitutional Law filed a class action lawsuit against U.S. Attorney General Edwin Meese, alleging that the government’s detention and release policies were in violation of the children’s rights under the Equal Protection Clause and the Due Process Clause of the United States Constitution. The administration has fingered Flores v. Reno, or the “Flores settlement,” as the reason it is “forced” to separate parents from their children to prosecute them. It claims that because it cannot keep parents and children in immigration detention together, it has no choice but to detain parents in immigration detention (after they’ve been criminally prosecuted for illegal entry) and send the children to the Department of Health and Human Services as “unaccompanied alien children.” The Flores settlement requires the federal government to do two things: to place children with a close relative or family friend “without unnecessary delay,” rather than keeping them in custody; and to keep immigrant children who are in custody in the “least restrictive conditions” possible.The situation of accompanied children, on the other hand, went largely under the radar (the legislation requiring the change in custody from INS to ORR only applied to unaccompanied children). One exception was a lawsuit challenging the deplorable conditions at the former T. Don Hutto facility in Texas, which detained accompanied children with their parents. The federal government agreed to close the controversial Hutto facility in 2009 and only one family detention center remained in the United States, in Berks County, Pennsylvania.
(1.1>>Republican hardliners like Jeff Sessions. Attorney General Jeff Sessions enacted a "zero tolerance" policy for illegal immigration that resources would need to be diverted from other cases to handle the workload.Records obtained by USA Today show that a Justice Department (DOJ) supervisor in San Diego emailed border control authorities warning that immigration-related cases “will occupy substantially more of our resources" in the coming days as the Trump administration increased the number of prosecutions for illegal entry. (1.2)>>But It costs a lot of money to keep these people & children. Though Trump signed an order he says will keep migrant families together,the detention facilities drawing the most attention right now aren't the only ones in the U.S.As of this month, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement runs 113 detention facilities across the country and works with state and local jails along with private prisons to operate hundreds more. What makes me mad at this is that the Federal government can spend money on housing illegals , but NEVER a dime spent on housing homeless Americans . LETS DO THE MATH HERE . Well, $700 per day x 35,000 illegal kids (as of yesterday's tally) amounts to the following U.S. taxpayer housings:$24,500,000 per day $735,000,000 per month (give or a take a mil or two) $8,820,000,000 per year. Another source , The federal government paid a “bed rate” of $127.82 per day to house each illegal alien detained by Immigration and Customs Enforcement in fiscal 2016, according to ICE data published in a new report by the Government Accountability Office.Even if you do not count the extra day in that leap year, that works out to $46,654.30 for each detention bed occupied by an illegal alien for 365 days.The approximately $46,654 it cost to house a detained illegal alien for 365 days in fiscal 2016 was approximately $104 more than the average income for Americans 15 and older that year—which, according to Census Bureau Table PINC-01, was $46,550. (1.2.2 )>>Obama did the same thing. President Barack Obama (R) participates in the taping of an MSNBC/Telemundo town hall discussion on immigration with host Jose Diaz-Balart (L) at Florida International University in Miami, in February 2015. Photo by Jonathan Ernst/Reuters. “He was facing an unprecedented, highly personalized opposition from Congress,” said Janet Murguia, president of the National Council of La Raza, an immigration advocacy group, who once labeled Obama the “deporter-in-chief.” ”We fault him, I believe correctly, for failing to recognize soon [ Obama Immigration Reform 2014 Speech: Announcing Executive Action [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?
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