Did the Russians get a "raw" Deal with Trump?

An Old Political cartoon reflects the Alaska  Purchase of 1867.

Historically it was not a popular move by the American 

government . Relations with Russia have always 

gone up and down over 200 years.

The biggest theoretical question I have had all along . If the Russian Collusion is true , yes they meddled and Mr. Trump is a bye product of a conspiracy . I had to giggle a bit , I remember a interview that Donald Trump gave to the 700 Club  . In 2017  Trump told CBN founder Pat Robertson in this  interview  that (1)>>Russian President Vladimir Putin “would like Hillary” because she would lead a weak military and energy prices would increase under her administration. Trump praised America as the most powerful country in the world and argued that it’s only getting stronger “because I’m a big military person.” Had Clinton won, he said, “our military would be decimated” and “our energy would be much more expensive.” “That’s what Putin doesn’t like about me,” Trump said. It is so Ironic right now that the Russians don't Like Trump at all . The Russians made a pretty bad mistake with Donald Trump . I see that what President Vladimir (2)>>Putin wanted was the easing away of the Obama sanctions \, a return to normal relations . What is at stake since this is  (3)>>the "new cold war". With bad relations with Russia , and a return to the aggressive militarization of both nations aiming nukes at each other . Most of this is Ironic. Russia was hoping for normalizing relations with America . With the election of Trump.What happened is even baffling the Russian government . Their scratching their heads. They "realized" they made a big mistake with man they helped elect . What really really turned out was that Donald Trump ended up kissing butt to the old hardcore 1950s Republican war hawks that live in a different world . The world of the Pre- Reagan - Gorbachev , Pre- SALT treaties .  I often been questioning a lot that has been going on with the last election . I saw a lot of "peculiar" things during the (4)>>GOP  debates / nomination of Trump that do rule out a Russian interference . That's what the collusion theorists missed , that Donald J Trump won the nomination of the Republican party . So this begs the question of Republican Collusion. How much did they know ? .    A lot of things are puzzling. What I  believe  , want to really  believe is that the Russian meddling if "true" was  nothing but a big political mistake on Putin . Donald Trump is irrational , he is no way a Ronald Reagan. Who would say " Tare down this Wall "... Donald Trump can be down right dangerous. Unpredictable . Contrary to the immense propaganda on the internet , that we would be worse off with Hillary is not even founded on fact . MAY BE HILLARY would have brought an olive branch to Putin .  Just Maybe she would have done away with the Sanctions that President Obama unleashed on Russia . Russia may have placed too many hopes of Trump .  My big question is how to end this new cold war , return normalization , dialog with Russia  even under a Trump regime . There is so much at stake.

Mueller ridiculous indictment (additional Material).
How Gullible are we Americans ? Why has a new wave of McCarthyism has swept through our nations media ,  with specialty Congress ?  Special counsel Robert Mueller has indicted 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities for allegedly meddling in the 2016 presidential election, charging them with conspiracy to defraud the United States, the Department of Justice announced  (why is it always on a Friday afternoon?)  Friday.  Yes, I still don't see the evidence on how our election was influenced . The so called Russian Trolls {bloggers-} spread false information on the social media during the election  . It hard to believe that some how my own government is trying to convince me that Donald Trump is a puppet of Putin . Even if Mueller's own investigation indict of the 13 Russians , the ridiculous attempt to extradition of the so called criminals  still can't explain how Trump won the nomination of his party in 2016 . A White House spokesperson went even further Saturday, suggesting that Democrats and  (5)>>the mainstream media deserve more blame than Russia for political division in the U.S “There are two groups that have created chaos more than the Russians,” White House deputy press secretary Hogan Gidley said on Fox News. “And that’s the Democrats and the mainstream media who continued to push this lie on the American people for more than a year, and quite frankly Americans should be outraged by that.”But even as Trump and Gidley claimed vindication in Friday’s indictments and downplayed the impact of the Russian effort, other top administration officials are acknowledging the attack and calling for consequences. Mueller will have  the final say. I think the witch hunt will go around in circles for a long time .

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(1)>>Russian President Vladimir Putin “would like Hillary” .  Hillary knew about political diplomacy . I assume that she would have in time removed the sanctions against Russia . Putin would have used his "charms" to bring America back to reason . Yes , reason. Its hard to guess what our relations would have been if Hillary did win . I don't think that we would be running a "investigation " on  "meddling" in our political system . That is why I think that Russia was so misguided { deceived } on Trump.  After all the witch hunt , anti- Russian propaganda in America . I can see that Putin would have like Hillary instead .  (2)>>Putin wanted was the easing away of the Obama sanctions . The Russians went after our election system — what did they expect would we do? Do they know us so little they thought they could go after our elections  in theory ? They had to know us better. I think some in the Russian business class are coming to realize that Putin made a serious mistake. U.S.-Russia ties have fluctuated greatly over the years. Russia was initially an ally of the U.S. throughout the tumultuous political years that followed the collapse of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s and was an early ally of the U.S.'s war on terror after the 9/11 attacks in 2001. However, Putin, who has led the country as president or prime minister since 2000, has long been a critic of U.S. attempts to expand its influence around the world and now faces what his U.S. counterpart and former political ally, Donald Trump, described in August as "an all-time and very dangerous low" for relations between the two powers."We have to turn this page and move forward and our relations should be based on mutual respect and we should treat each other as equal partners," Putin said, according to the state-run Tass Russian News Agency. (3)>>the "new cold war". Lingering grievances that surfaced under the administration of President Barack Obama have left the two nations deeply suspicious of another's intentions. Persistent U.S. accusations that the Kremlin interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential race has led to multiple sanctions and tit-for-tat diplomatic attacks between the countries, while dueling military buildups between Western military alliance NATO and Russia have played out across Europe.(4)>>GOP  debates / nomination of Trump that do rule out a Russian interference .  No one is seriously thinking that the "Russia interference  accusations " are really a cover up to a political coup in the United States . Donald Trump won the nomination of the Republican party . Was this the part of the Russian interference ? For a candidate like Trump to win the nomination, it means that several things have gone wrong — both for the Republican Party and in the assumptions we made about how party nominations work. Yes, I thought that Gov. Rick Perry , or Sen Cruz was going to win the nomination . Curiously the Atlantic magazine clues us in , here its says.   " The indictment is also conspicuous for failing to allege any act of collusion between the Russian actors and any Americans at all. There are no identified American co-conspirators and there certainly is no allegation that the Russians acted with the knowledge of (much less the approval of) any individuals in the Trump campaign. As far as the indictment is concerned, the Russian activity was initiated by the Russians for their own strategic benefit, and candidate Trump may only have been an incidental beneficiary of their activity". (5)>>the mainstream media deserve more blame than Russia.  To take the last one first, it’s irresponsible to reflect on Trump’s candidacy without considering the unprecedented way in which he dominated media coverage from the beginning of his campaign, which was worth the equivalent of $2 billion in paid advertising. Any time a demagogic candidate wins a nomination, it suggests a potential failure of political institutions, including (but not limited to) the media.  Republican tactics payed off with Trump because the fringe American saw him as a "outsider" , but one must consider Trump's celebrity ability to reach the gullible voters who saw Hillary Clinton as nothing more than a "continuation " of the legacy of Bill Clinton . Hillary was damaged goods , her lack of explaining the Benghazi failure , the wasted e-mail investigation was one of the American media's best propaganda against her  . BUT NO WAY IS Donald Trump in the clear ! It can't exonerate him . Trump's has had numerous business associations with Russia , some are down right embarrassing , Trump is also so self incriminating its unreal .