Kaine & Pence Round- a-bout . VP debate and other new NEWS!

Kaine was too swift .
Pence's big problem
Trump.

The VP debate was the only debate between Kaine and Pence . While the debate was meager to compare the Hillary vs Trump .  (1)>>However the VP debate had some surprises thanks to Mike Pence who tried  not to play the devils advocate for Trump. Some news sources say that Pence threw Trump under the bus, the CNN report "Again and again, he refused to defend Donald Trump," Kaine told CNN "New Day" host Alisyn Camerota Thursday. "I think the folks watching it definitely understood that Gov. Pence wouldn't defend his running mate."Kaine came across as rude and un-presidential for some , He appeared angry and interrupted Pence often in the debate with a laundry list he seemed to be reading from. It felt like he wasn't following the debate questions, but was just trying to inject all his talking points. Pence was measured and sounded like he could assume the role of Commander in Chief.Mr. Kaine was far more aggressive from the start, answering a question about his own qualifications with lengthy praise for Hillary Clinton and a declaration that “the thought of Donald Trump as commander in chief scares us to death.” Mr. Kaine, trained as a litigator, frequently used this tactic of turning questions about himself and Mrs. Clinton into opportunities to extol his running mate and assail Mr. Trump.“I can’t imagine how Governor Pence can defend the insult-driven, me-first style of Donald Trump,” Mr. Kaine said after noting that Mr. Trump had once described Mexicans as “rapists” and questioned President Obama’s citizenship. I think these attacks by Kaine may have stuck  behind Pence's own mind underneath , may have embarrassed him . His {Pence} first own thoughts may have been . "yea he said that .........."  It may have been hard again for Pence to defend Trump , just as much as (2)>>Rudy

Giuliani called Donald Trump  {defending } a "genius"  last Sunday, in the wake of a New York Times report indicating he may have legally avoiding paying taxes for nearly two decades. The hypocrisy is amazing , with a real lack of "damage control". Defending what Trump actually said over the years becomes vary difficult as { more dirt surfaces as I am writing } recently a recording has come to the attention to the media via CNN Donald Trump bragged about trying to have sex with a married woman and being able to grope women in previously unaired footage from 2005 that surfaced on Friday. It makes me wonder just as much as Bill Clinton's escapades may have been forgivable , Trump's might be just as scathing . The Media will not forgive Trump. That's  is the "irony" , Mrs. Clinton responded " This is horrific. We cannot allow this man to become president," Clinton tweeted later . After nearly a day of ignoring reporters’ queries on Donald Trump’s lewd 2005 tape where he discusses attempts to have sex with women, Republican vice presidential nominee Mike Pence is out with a statement condemning Trump’s comments.  “As a husband and father, I was offended by the words and actions described by Donald Trump in the eleven-year-old video released yesterday,” Pence said in a statement Saturday afternoon. “I do not condone his remarks and cannot defend them.”After Trump’s late-night Facebook video statement apologizing for the 2005 comments, Pence said he was “grateful” that the real estate mogul “has expressed remorse and apologized {rather late of coarse , but he should apologize to  the women }rather   to the American people.“I’d never withdraw. I’ve never withdrawn in my life,” Trump told The Washington Post in a phone call from his home in Trump Tower in New York. “No, I’m not quitting this race. I have tremendous support.”“People are calling and saying, ‘Don’t even think about doing anything else but running,” Trump said when asked about Republican defections. “You have to see what’s going on. The real story is that people have no idea about the support. I don’t know how that’s going to boil down, but people have no idea about the support.
Quo Vadis Mike Pence?

There is obvious talk about Mike Pence "actually" running for President in 2020 . The GOP right now is in a frenzy about Trump . Notwithstanding how much distance he can get away  from Trump .  "Vote for Donald Trump, and get Mike Pence elected " is probably a good party slogan right now , if that don't play into political conspiracies .I believe Trump if he { in a theory , but unlikely now } "won" in November, he is likely would be  puppet { lacking any political experience other wise he }  of the right wing regime . The political right has used "star power" to get votes before . Like Arnold Schwarzenegger did for California  himself as "puppet" of former Gov . Pete Wilson .  The alternative for Pence running should Trump drop out of the race is unlikely as of now  Donald Trump and running mate Mike Pence indicated Saturday that they would fight their election campaign to its conclusion next month, Donald Trump on Saturday vowed to "never" drop out of the presidential race as a growing chorus of Republicans urged him to do exactly. A new poll says one out of three Trump backers now wish that the Indiana governor was at the top of the GOP ticket instead of in the second spot. According to the Politico/Morning Consult poll, 32 percent of Trump supporters say they would rather have Pence as president, while only 9 percent of Hillary Clinton supporters who would rather have Kaine. The post-debate survey of almost 2,000 registered voters was taken Oct. 5 6.

NOTES AND COMMENTS:

(1)>>However the VP debate had some surprises. About 37.2 million people tuned in to the nine television channels that carried the debate live, according to Nielsen.An unknown number of others streamed the debate on the web in ways that aren't counted by Nielsen. The VP debate is always about defending your running mate, One is that Kaine came off overly aggressive and seemed too eager to get in his memorized talking points. { it reminds me the guts Joe Biden had  in 2012  In a vice-presidential debate against Paul Ryan in October 2012, Ryan offered “a bunch of malarkey” about Libya, according to Biden’s view. And amid a salvo of vice-presidential finger-guns and air kisses, “a bunch of malarkey”} Biden stooped for Obama on Libya which later became fair game on Hillary Clinton }  The other is that Pence happily and calmly defended a version of his running mate that doesn’t exist. In Pence’s telling, Trump would be tough on Putin, would never support prosecuting women for having abortions, uses his family charity solely for charitable purposes, etc. And when called on these discrepancies, Pence simply said that Trump isn’t a polished candidate so sometimes says things he doesn’t mean. (2)>>Rudy Giuliani called Donald Trump . Following a New York Times investigation revealing that Donald Trump may have claimed a nearly billion dollar loss in 1995 to avoid paying taxes, Rudy Giuliani proclaims Trump is an “absolute genius.”The former New York City mayor appeared on ABC’s This Week with George Stephanopoulos to commend Trump for “taking advantage” of the laws. The large loss, the Times reported, could have allowed Trump to avoid paying federal income taxes for up to 18 years. On “Fox News Sunday,” Christie made the point twice that Trump would change the law to fix the kind of situation highlighted by the New York Times.“There’s no one who’s shown more genius in their way to maneuver about the tax code as he rightfully used the laws to do that,” Christie said. “And he’s already promised in his tax plan to change many of these special interest loopholes and get rid of them so you don’t have this kind of situation.”Later in the show, Christie said, “And the genius that Donald Trump has been, to make sure he follows the law, which is exactly what he’s done, and politically he has said that he’s going to change these laws and that there’s no one who’s better suited to change these laws than someone like him who’s been subjected to audit by the IRS year after year after year.”